The majority of my clients, they have an idea for a book and it's burning a hole in

their brain and they need they need to see it happen and they have either tried to write

it themselves and just couldn't get through it or they just have absolutely zero interest

in being an author. Welcome back to working, I'm your host, Isaac Butler. And I'm your

other host, June Thomas. June, what is up? Isaac, it's been ages. How are things going?

Your book's been out for about a month now, right? What's been the biggest surprise about

the way it's been received and what you've been asked to do to promote it? Well, what

I've been asked to do to promote it is fairly straightforward. You know, if a podcast

invite comes my way, if I say yes, if someone wants to do a virtual, I mean, I just sort

of say yes to everything, you know, so there's nothing that I haven't been asked to like

do a dunk tank where people throw things at a target to see if they fall on the, you

know, it's too bad. I feel like I would do well on the county fair circuit. But the

most gratifying surprise was getting an email from John Garfield's daughter. So John Garfield

is, you know, I write a lot about him in the book. I sort of say that he's the first

real method movie star. You know, he died very tragically and young. And I spent a lot

of real estate in the book on him. And so to have his daughter write me and say, you know,

thank you for preserving my father's legacy and everything like that was very, very moving.

So that's been the most gratifying surprise was to have Julie Garfield write me. That's

amazing. So whose voice was that that we heard at the top of the show? So that was Michelle

Shusterman. She's a writer. And I first became aware of her when she showed up in my YouTube

feed. She publishes videos there twice a week about the writing process and writing craft

and the publishing industry. But I wanted to talk to her for working because she does quite a

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