Welcome back to Working Over Time, the advicey focus puller to Working Director of Photography.

I am your host, Isaac Butler.

And I'm your other host, June Thomas.

Isaac, what have you got for us this time?

Hey June, it's always lovely to hear your voice.

This time, I have been thinking a lot about the five senses and thinking

especially about how we often ignore all of them except for sight when we think about our

experience of the world and creative work and maybe we could open up some new creative doors by taking a gander sight metaphor again at the other four.

Well, Kalemee fascinated and in case you're wondering Isaac the color of

fascination is the sort of dusky rose with hunter orange highlights I'm curious what got

you onto this subject. So we recently had an episode where I

interviewed a film sound designer named Johnny Byrne and he walked me

through this really intense detailed process for the film The Zone of Interest

and that just got me thinking a lot about the other senses and in a way this connects to my last book

the method how the 20th century learned to act because a And in a way this connects to my last book, The Method,

how the 20th century learned to act,

because a lot of the acting training in that book

is actually about training the senses other than sight.

Part of that is just the assumption that you know we all use

site all the time we're thinking about site our language includes a lot of site

metaphors you know but actually there are other senses that connect more directly to emotions than sight does.

What do you mean?

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