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Welcome to the Kindlead podcast. I'm your host, Haley Williams. The heart behind Kindled is to help moms use their gifts for God's glory and their good. We'll chat with real women who are learning how to do this very thing as they navigate motherhood, work, and the grace we need for both. This heart to heart is always had over a

cup of coffee and usually paired with a business pep talk. We hope you'll find practical advice

and the encouragement you need to work well and live more. Welcome back to Kindled. Here we are again, and today we're talking with Heather Borsma. She's an author and a speaker. And we have an amazing conversation for you today. So I hope you'll stick with it. I know it's a little long. It's worth every minute. So I promise you, I edited stuff out that didn't even make the

cut. So we're going to dive on in and let you listen to my conversation with Heather. Tell me and

the listeners a little bit about yourself who you are and what you do. Sure. So I am a speaker and

author. I've been speaking mostly to teen girls and women for the last 12 years

and written, I'm working on my second book right now called Letters from a Big Sister. And the first

book is called Dream Big and it was a youth devotional book. So outside of ministry, business stuff, I'm a wife to a crazy entrepreneur who is very business savvy.

I always say he's the one in our relationship that knows how to make the money and everything

that I like to do just costs.

Hey, I get that. I get that. Yeah. And then I have three crazy, beautiful children.

Cohen is seven, Claire is five, and Byron is just about nine months old. That's awesome. It's so

fun.

So how did you get into writing and speaking?

What did that start look like for you?

So I first started speaking, actually,

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