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Working: Author Annie Duke Explains How to Get Better at Quitting

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🗓️ 2 October 2022

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

This week, host June Thomas talks to Annie Duke, an author and former professional poker player whose latest book is Quit: The Power of Knowing When to Walk Away. In the interview, Annie explains why she’s trying to rehabilitate the word “quit.” She also uses examples to illustrate why quitting is sometimes the best option and why people often stick to projects and jobs that aren’t working.  After the interview, June and co-host Isaac Butler discuss their own experiences with quitting and saying “no” to things.  In the exclusive Slate Plus segment, Annie talks about balancing individual goals with the goals of your community. She also gives some possible explanations for why there aren’t more women in professional poker.  If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get an ad-free experience across the network and exclusive content on many shows—you’ll also be supporting the work we do here on Working. Sign up now at slate.com/workingplus to help support our work. Send your questions about creativity and any other feedback to working@slate.com or give us a call at (304) 933-9675. Podcast production by Cameron Drews. -- Check out Remote Works here: https://link.chtbl.com/remoteworks?sid=podcast.WORKING Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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What we lose sight of once we've started something is what we could be doing instead.

0:58.0

And we're so afraid of that moment from going from failing to having failed that we will just keep going even when we shouldn't.

1:13.0

Welcome back to working, I'm your host, Isaac Butler.

1:16.0

And I'm your other host, June Thomas.

1:19.0

June, you know, I was just thinking of you yesterday that you must be the one person in the UK who feels like maybe okay about what's going on because your book advance in salary are paid in dollars. How are things going over there?

1:33.0

Yes, at least one person texted me with that observation on the day when the words pound plummets were all over the news.

1:41.0

Drag name, I'm plummets is a good one plummets. Yeah.

1:46.0

What goes up must come down and I don't want anyone thinking that I'm like doing all kinds of big deals to leverage this development.

1:53.0

I'm just sort of watching the rate because Edinburgh as a big tourist center for some reason lots of the stores on the main shopping street have the dollar pound exchange rate in shop windows.

2:05.0

See it all the time and I'm there for experiencing tremendous guilt about being in a better situation than pretty much everybody else in this country.

2:14.0

I got it. I got it. So who did you talk to for this week's episode?

2:18.0

So this week I spoke with Annie Duke who was once a professional poker player and even though she hasn't played professionally in more than a decade.

2:28.0

I believe she's still in the top five highest earning women professional poker players.

2:34.0

And since she retired, she's written several books, some of which are about poker written for people who want to play better poker.

2:44.0

And some for general readers that leverage the lessons of poker, which while down to it being the art of decision making based on probability.

2:55.0

And it's a very dull way of saying that she writes really interesting books about helping you make better decisions.

3:01.0

And she has a new book out on October 4th called Quit the Power of Knowing When to Walk Away.

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