Hello and welcome to another episode of Working Overtime, the bi-weekly advice focused,

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workings real housewives.

I'm your host June Thomas.

And I am your other host Isaac Butler.

So June, what have you got for us today? Well, Isaac, I want to talk about the do's

and don'ts of seeking advice from people who have enjoyed success in a field you want to get into. I want to say up front that this topic

was inspired by the January 19th issue of Jeff Perlman's email newsletter, The Yang Slinger.

We'll include a link to that newsletter in the show page.

Perlman is a very successful sports writer

who has shifted into writing books about sports.

It's a good newsletter. He puts a lot of time and thought into every issue and I recommend

it to anyone interested in journalism and sports and the intersections of those things.

Here though I also want to note that Perlman said something really really

tone-deaf when a horrifically large number of journalists were laid off at several publications

in late January.

He said that journalists, quote,

have to make themselves indispensable.

A piece of advice that might have been useful in 1999

but is almost laughably out of date and out of touch.

Today a whole lot of people who have been incredibly hardworking,

incredibly entrepreneurial and very smart and very indispensable have been made unemployed in this awful business.

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