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Just like the director is directing the human actors, we are directing the dogs every moment to evoke the performance out of them.

Every single thing you see is a train behavior, you know, everything. From when they let you know lower their heads, the way they move their eyes, it's all because we've trained them to do that.

Welcome back to Working, I'm your host, Karen Han.

And I'm your other host, June Thomas.

Hi June, we're back again. How are you?

I am well. I was very happy to see you and talk with you. How are you doing?

I'm doing great because I'm so excited for our conversation this week, which leads me to ask, who's voice did we just hear?

So the voice that we heard at the top of the show belongs to Sarah Clifford. Sarah is a very experienced animal trainer who has facilitated animal performances in all kinds of movies and TV shows.

And I wanted to speak with her now because she worked with the two rutwilers who are stealing the show in FX's great series The Old Man.

I'm so excited to listen to this interview because the topic of animal training for performance is so fascinating to me.

And also knowing that we had to do this episode, I looked up pictures of these dogs and they're so cute.

But before we dive into all that, what can we look forward to in the Slate Plus segment this week?

So Sarah has trained all kinds of creatures over the years from goats to butterflies. Wow.

I wondered if there are any animals that are totally unbeatable or if all animals can be trained to perform. So I asked her about that.

Well, there's no way that I'm going to miss a segment like that. I'm so excited to hear it.

And if you are not a Slate Plus member already, but want to get in on this action and find out what animals you just can't have around, why not join Slate Plus?

As a member, you'll get no ads on any of our podcast, unlimited reading on the Slate site, and member exclusive episodes and segments from us and other shows like the Culture Gap Fest and the Waves.

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