I have a mission which is to bring journalistic skills and practices to a world that I had lived in and that I really do love, but that also I wanted to hold it to account.

I didn't want to idealize it.

Welcome back to working. I'm your host, Isaac Butler.

And I am your other host, Ronald Young Jr.

Ronald, normally this is the time in the show where one of us says,

oh, whose voice was that that we just heard?

But, duh, that's the voice of our wonderful co-host, June Thomas.

Because today, in the words of the great strong bad,

The tables have turned.

And you are interviewing her. What is up with that? Yes, the tables have turned and you are interviewing her what is up with that yes the tables

have indeed turned and i'm so excited because june has written her first book yeah june woo

yeah me me me that's our live studio audience.

The book is called A Place of Our Own, Six Spaces that shaped queer women's culture.

And it's kind of a history of the spaces in which queer women have found safety and community.

And let me tell you, I'm almost through the chapter on bars, and I've learned so

much. It's such a warm and informative journey. Well, I would expect nothing less than warm and

informative from June Thomas. Do our Slate Plus folks get anything extra in their stocking this week?

Oh, you know they do, Isaac. I don't know if you've been hearing that question that

women have been answering recently about whether they'd rather be trapped in the woods with a man

or a bear. Now, here, because of the subject matter of the book and everything like that, by bear,

we mean the animal bear, not a large, her suit, gay man. Good that we have that explainer there, but yes,

an actual bear. So we talk a little bit about that question, and we talk about the nuanced

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