Workday's new product head hopes he can make you like Workday

Decoder with Nilay Patel

Vox Media Podcast Network

Technology, Business

4.3 • 3.2K Ratings

🗓️ 15 May 2025

⏱️ 73 minutes

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Today, I’m talking with Gerrit Kazmaier, the brand-new president of product and technology at Workday. Gerrit’s new on the job, maybe a little bit braver than most, and to his credit he came on the show and took the heat. We spent a lot of time talking about what enterprise software really is, what it does and why it has a reputation of being so deeply frustrating for so many people. Links: Workday names Gerrit Kazmaier president of product and technology | Workday AI Index Report | Stanford HAI IBM AI Study | IBM How generative AI will impact the future of work | Workday Workday launches platform for companies to manage all of their AI agents | TechCrunch Everyone hates Workday | Business Insider Judge: Workday must face novel AI bias lawsuit | Reuters Workday lays off 1,750, 8.5% of employees, in AI push | Associated Press Why Workday's CEO made a layoff decision to invest in AI | FastCompany Transcript: https://www.theverge.com/e/667538 Credits: Decoder is a production of The Verge and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Our producers are Kate Cox and Nick Statt. Our editor is Ursa Wright. The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:38.6	Hello and welcome to Decoder. I'm Neil I Patel, editor-in-chief slash box. Hello, and welcome to Decoder.
0:40.0	I'm Eli Patel, editor-in-chief of The Verge, and Decoder is my show about big ideas and other
0:43.9	problems.
0:45.1	Today, I'm talking with Garrett Casmeier, the brand-new president of product and technology
0:49.5	at Enterprise Software Company Workday.
0:52.4	Dakota listeners probably know the name Workday.
0:54.8	A lot of companies use its platform to run HR and finance,
0:58.2	which the suits have started bundling up into a phrase they call human capital management.
1:02.6	I invite you to have whatever feelings about that you want.
1:05.4	Anyhow, if you've been applying to jobs lately, you have almost certainly run into Workday,
1:09.2	and you are almost certainly frustrated
1:11.0	with it. I mean, I'll just say this from the jump. It's rare that Enterprise Software executives
1:15.3	come on this show, because it's a guarantee I will ask them why everyone hates Enterprise
1:20.0	Software and what they're doing to fix it. Workday is no exception. Last year, Business Insider
1:26.1	published an article literally titled, Everybody
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