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Trains, now on Uber. T's and C's apply. Check the Uber app. Hello and welcome to the New Statesman podcast. I'm Anush and I'm joined by

my colleagues Alvaray and Stephen Bush to discuss going back to work and why the

government wants us to do it and why it's so confusing and you ask us

does the Captain Hindsight criticism of Kia Starma put him in danger. So we're recording on Monday and it was last Friday that Boris Johnson

first started ramping up the rhetoric about more people going back to work if they can.

And he's been reiterating that message today.

And there's a huge amount of confusion because while the official guidance that's written down says that if you can still work from home you should work from home

It seems from ministers that they would rather people started trying to go back to their places of work and

It seems obvious that the reason for this is because although they've had

their super Saturday and they've reopened pubs and shops and restaurants and all sorts of places that you don't get as much footfall and therefore revenue in these

places unless people are actually going into their offices and to their workplaces again.

So what is the actual guidance and why is it so confusing?

Stephen you wrote about this in Morning Call.

Yeah, so the actual guidance remains that you should work from home if you're able.

I think, I mean I'm actually I'm so

self-indulgent on this issue, I've actually I've actually written another piece on

this as well because I genuinely think that the confusion on this comes back to a policy that people who are

particularly attentive to my many terrible and actually quite right-wing

opinions will be aware I have views on which is the incoherence of the recent conservative turn on high streets.

Yes, hello, we've got to save the high streets.

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