Work advice from the world’s favorite couples therapist w/ Master Fixer Dr. Orna Guralnik | from Fixable

How to Be a Better Human

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Personal Growth, Education, Better Human, Self-improvement, Interviews, Chris Duffy, Self-help, Emotional Awareness

4.2 • 1.3K Ratings

🗓️ 22 December 2025

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Relationships of any kind can be tricky—but therapists are here to help. In this special episode, Anne and Frances talk to clinical psychologist Dr. Orna Guralnik, star of the hit show Couples Therapy, to translate her advice for romantic relationships to the professional world. Together, they discuss the art of deep listening, underline the importance of patience and working through differences, and reframe relationships as a constant cycle of rupture and repair. Dr. Guralnik also reflects on the making of Couples Therapy and gives Anne and Frances advice as a couple who work together.

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0:00.0	Hey, everyone, Chris Duffy here.
0:05.3	Today we are sharing an episode of a podcast that we think you are going to love.
0:09.7	This has been handpicked by the TED staff, and we think that as a how to be a better
0:13.6	human listener, you are going to come away with a fresh idea and a totally new perspective.
0:18.7	So enjoy this episode and head to the link in the
0:21.1	description afterwards to hear even more.
0:23.9	Frances, you and I have never been in couples therapy. Oh, yeah. So if you recall, you
0:31.0	promised me early on that you would never ask. I did. I would have promised you anything at that point. I was basically a child
0:41.5	bride who had no idea what she was getting into. You were 30 years old. You were emotionally,
0:48.7	as you still are, like 75. And now I am super suspicious about what I'm, about what I'm walking into. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to
1:00.0	ask you to trust me, baby. It's going to be amazing. Oh, boy. Welcome to Fixable, a podcast from TED.
1:09.2	I'm your host, Anne Morris. I'm a company builder and leadership coach.
1:12.5	And I'm your co-host, Frances Fry. I'm a Harvard Business School professor. And I'm Anne's wife.
1:17.8	Today's episode will be the last new episode of this season. So we want to go out with a bang. We have a very special Master Fixer joining us today.
1:29.4	I have never been more nervous.
1:38.5	And I have never been more delighted to share a guest with our audience. The fabulous Dr. Orna Goralnik is with us today to help us take lessons from the world of couples therapy and apply them to the
1:45.9	experience of work. And Francis, if along the way we get to our work and our relationship,
1:52.8	it happens, baby. It's going to come up organically. This is not helping. Dr. Goralnik, for those of
1:59.9	you who don't know, is a renowned psychoanalyst and clinical psychologist on the faculty of NYU's postdoctoral program and psychoanalysis.
2:08.1	She is also the star of the fantastic show couple's therapy on Showtime and Paramount Plus.
2:14.3	I want to say up front that I love this show. I've watched every episode, and I have
2:19.8	been really struck by the overlap between her work and our work. We're not therapists, of course,
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