This is simple. I'm Tish Hawksenreider.

As you know by now, we merge the podcast I launched this year women's work into this long established one so now you're

getting both type of episodes in one feed the worked theme ones and the ones

about the things we love I love this new format it's so much simpler for me and I hear for you too.

But it does mean that some of you might have missed a few of the 30 fantastic chats I had over on women's work.

So occasionally I'm going to give you a few of these previous chats on this show here.

Think of it as a free toy prize inside.

So more on this chat I'm sharing with you in just a second,

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the simple show dot com and you'll stay in the loop every week in under a minute. Okay, I am sharing with you a chat I had a few months ago with Jenny Burke, my literary agent. I get so many questions from readers

and listeners about the publishing world, how to break into writing, what are the

first steps you should take, and I figured what better way to give you something to

point to than a chat with my own literary agent who knows the answers to these questions so much better than me.

So while this chat is more about what it's like to do her work in the literary industry today, then it is

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