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Hello and welcome to Words Matter from the DSRnetwork.

Each week, Norm Ornstein and I will talk about the issues facing our country as we head into another election cycle and discuss what our leaders are saying and doing or not saying or doing about them.

Today, we want to do kind of a week recap, so to speak. Actually, maybe more than a week, but Norm, it sounds like you've been traveling doing some interesting things. How's your week been?

So we're just back from Chautauqua, which is the storybook place in upstate New York on this gorgeous lake.

It goes back to just the post-civil war period and they have nine weeks with themes with speakers. The theme this past week was will the center hold.

And so I spoke in front of pretty much 4,000 people in this wooden amphitheater that is in an incredible space.

And, you know, at first I said I could make this very quick. Will the center hold? No. And then we could all go on our way and find an open bar.

But we had a very good discussion, but one in which I talked a lot about our podcast. So I'm hoping even as we're speaking that some people who are there at Chautauqua are tuning into us.

Can you share any other, were there any other moments during either your session or maybe some of the other is usually I find these meetings interesting for side discussions.

Anything kind of surprising. You don't need to attribute any person's names to it if that's not appropriate, but I would be curious like dissolving surprise you.

It's hard to surprise you in one. So did anything emerge that we should let our listeners know about. Hopefully some of them who are at the meeting.

So, you know, I don't know if there was anything surprising. People are deeply concerned as you might expect. I would tell you, the Monday I spoke on Wednesday, the Monday keynote lecture was Bill Crystal.

And I think Bill surprised them a little bit because of course he's now become a never trumper, but gave a good talk with some history behind it.

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