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This is Deep State Radio, coming to you direct from our super secret studio in the third sub-basement of the Ministry of Snark in Washington, D.C.,

and from other undisclosed locations across America and around the world.

Hello and welcome to DSR's Words Matter.

I'm David Rothkopf, and I am joined by Norm Ornstein, who is not, to my knowledge,

mentioned in any of the Epstein files so far. Is that true, Norm? That is absolutely true. Never met the guy,

never wanted to meet the guy, never wanted to stup 15-year-olds.

Oh, my God.

Oh, my God.

And back when I was 15, the 15-year-olds didn't do that kind of stuff.

So there you go.

I'm sure when you were 15, the 15, no one wanted to sleep with the 15-year-olds.

But that's it. That's another issue. This is not funny. And in the sense that, you know, what's going on here is not just a

cover-up, not just the president trying to hide his past, but a lot of powerful rich guys

trying to game the system so that they're not

held to account for what is serial rape of lots of young girls below the age of consent.

And it's been going on, you know, I mean, I think the first time Epstein was arrested was 2005.

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