We hope you are enjoying our expanded podcast schedule. For the month of July, we have something new for our members.

Each month, members who successfully answer our bonus content quiz will be entered for a chance to win a pair of AirPods Pro.

To participate, you must have access to the bonus sections of the podcasts.

Members also receive an ad-free listening experience, an evening newsletter, an invitation to join the DSR Slack community and more.

Best of all, if you become a member in the month of July, you will receive 50% off the normal membership price.

Visit the DSRnetwork.com slash buy and enter code fireworks at checkout.

That's the DSRnetwork.com slash buy and code fireworks. Thank you for your support.

We've got the votes and screwed the rest of you.

And Dr. Kavita Patel.

These might be some of the smaller moments, you know, with all the bombshells. Didn't catch people's eyes.

Hello and welcome to Words Matter from the DSRnetwork.

Each week, Norm Ornstein and I will talk about the issues facing our country as we head into another election cycle.

And what our leaders are saying and doing about them, or for that matter, not doing about them, which is in line.

Norm, I think for today's episode, when we were trying to brainstorm about today's episode, Norm, you...

I was struggling because it feels like we could talk about anything for days.

And yet, I didn't feel like the Walter Nata indictment rose to that level of let me spend 30 minutes talking about it.

But you brought up a series of good points, which actually gave me a throwback, so to speak, to a couple of articles written by Carol Liannig and colleagues.

And I'm just going to pull up and then let you react on the other side, because I do think that they were pretty...

I think that Carol, and she's won a Pulitzer for previous coverage around secret service, kind of cover-ups, etc.

But I pulled up a March 2023 article, because it shows kind of how levels of inaction, knowing kind of inaction, which to me constitutes a willingness to let crimes be committed inside of the FBI, instead of the DOJ.

And how they had video evidence proof of Walter Nata hiding files, etc.

And that they resisted Carol's article in March 2023 in the post, describes, I think, beautifully...

...