I'm Cameron Espazito and I have a lot of jobs. I'm an actor. You've seen me on ABC's and a million little things.

I'm a stand-up comic bestselling author, but I am no expert at survival.

On my new podcast Survivor Diet trying, we're going to learn together from shark attacks to

tsunamis and bad breakups. This is your one-stop shop to prepare for the absolute worst-case scenario.

Join me and some special guests on Survivor Diet trying a comedy podcast that prepares you for anything.

Listen and follow wherever you get your podcasts.

I hold up. Let's use a different song for this episode. Maybe missing persons?

I want to feel better about words. The subject of the show is words. How about the Bee Gees?

Now this episode isn't about love. I don't want to date Barry Gibb. The episode's about language

and the challenges of using it to describe mental illnesses. Maybe I need to take it to the extreme.

You more than words is all you have to do to make it real.

No, I don't need to take it to the extreme. I can't get any of these words to convey my meaning.

This is comical foreshadowing of the content of the rest of the episode.

It's the hilarious world of depression. I'm John Mell. So look, we have words at our disposal.

Words, little mouth and air and tongue noises that are meant to convey meaning.

Then you have something like depression, which is so hard to describe because it's shapeless,

colorless, it has no mass. It's just this thingy. Still, words are all we have.

Around the office here, we've been talking about the power of words to really improve understanding

of mental health and also the destructive potential of words to make mental illnesses more frightening

and confusing, especially when those words are used incorrectly. A few days ago, we had our big

live show, the hilarious night of depression at the Fitzgerald Theater in St. Paul. Big theater,

sold out crowd, we laughed, we cried, it was great. And you'll get to hear more of it on our next

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