‘Wonka’ and the Timothee Chalamet Movie Star Playbook. Plus: Jonathan Glazer on ‘The Zone of Interest.’

The Big Picture

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Tv & Film

4.3 • 5.2K Ratings

🗓️ 15 December 2023

⏱️ 98 minutes

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Sean and Amanda are joined by Joanna Robinson to react to ‘Wonka’—what works, what doesn’t work, musicals in the 2020s, and whether a movie can subvert its early reputation as a meme (1:00). Then, Sean is joined by Jonathan Glazer and Johnnie Burn, the director and sound designer, respectively, of ‘The Zone of Interest’ (1:12:00). They discuss recreation in film, interpretive sound design, their other collaborations, and more. Hosts: Sean Fennessey and Amanda Dobbins Guests: Jonathan Glazer, Johnnie Burn, and Joanna Robinson Senior Producer: Bobby Wagner Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:27.6	conversation show about pure imagination later in this show I'll be joined by the sound designer and sound mixer and the
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