Today on the Marvel Cinematiciverse podcast, we're talking about Wonder Man episode seven, Kathy Friedman.

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Welcome to the Marvel Cinematic Universe podcast. My name's Matthew Carroll. I'm Ashtly

Koffin. What's up, Ash? Hey, it's been so long since I've seen you. Yes, a full like 30 minutes. We're doing it. I kind of love doing this. We haven't had the time or done it and like we're trucking through it tonight, but just getting it to watch them and and record. It's fun. It's fun like trying to guess what's going to happen and then getting the satisfaction of watching and seeing and then being able to talk about it's fun. It's fun. It's fun, like, trying to guess what's going to happen and then getting the satisfaction of

watching and seeing and then being able to talk about it right away.

Which I really, uh, the structure of this whole show I'm, you know, seeing very clearly

is just that, like, classic tale.

I mean, it is kind of pretty woman-esque, like entering a relationship among certain pretenses.

And then, you know, it's more like she's all that or one of those movies about like, oh, this was a bet the whole time.

Our relationship was based on, you just bet you could turn me into a pretty girl, that sort of thing.

But it's interesting because it's but it's

interesting because it's this completely different kind of relationship this artistic relationship

and it's interesting because i understand completely simon being upset but he also seems

more upset with himself than he really is with trevor he's mad with Trevor, but he's like, and I fell for it

the whole time. I just fell for it. Because Trevor says, like, he said, how are you going to get out of this? He's like, I don't know. Like, he doesn't know. He's, he's just as trapped in it as Simon is. Yeah, well, it's like what you were saying last episode. He's like just hoping for the best. and we thought he was going to tell him and use it, but he didn't.

He told him at hoping for the best. And we thought he was going to tell him and use it,

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