Hey guys, it's Kayla Candace isn't able to join us today but we are all still so

directionally challenged.

We thought we'd have it all figured out by the time we were in our 30s but surprise,

we don't and that's okay.

We're having a fascinating conversation today about women without kids.

I am going to sit down with Ruby Wearington.

She is an author and a podcaster.

She has had 20 plus years of experience as a lifestyle journalist and editor.

She is known as an astute cultural commentator and true thought leader and provoked.

Her new book Women Without Kids is out in March and it is truly one of the most fascinating

reads I have had yet to date.

I am so excited for our conversation with her so without further ado.

Here's my conversation with Ruby Wearington.

And I am here with Ruby Wearington Ruby.

I am so happy that you're back on our podcast.

Thanks for having me.

You're such a lovely guest.

We love having you on and this time to talk about something truly fascinating before

you know we started recording this.

I just said to Ruby how moved I am by the book she wrote and this conversation is one

we have not had on the podcast.

So let's just jump right in because there's so many fascinating things we're going to

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