Hi, my name is Ruby, and I'm Dr. Jennifer Finlays and Five's assistant, and you're listening to the Dr Finlays and

5 podcast Archive. The podcast you'll be listening to today is entitled,

Women's Bodies and Cultural Religious Mixed messages

originally produced and published by Sherry Burton of the Women Seeking

Holness Podcast. Welcome and we hope you enjoy this episode. Thank you Dr. Jennifer

Finlayson, five, so many syllables. I know. Thank you for joining me today. I have been wanting to review you for a while and I

wanted to wait until it felt like the timing was lining up with some of my other guests

I'm interviewing because this I feel like this topic with

women and sexuality especially within you know religious context deserved a lot of

exploration in many voices and so I know that you're very, very passionate about, and you

and I had this discussion a little, you know, just previously about kind of being a whistle blower

to some cultural discrepancies that you see in the tribe you love

which is Mormon women Mormonism I love this tribe as well and I've been a whistleblower in my own right but not in this

domain until now because I'm just seeing it come up so much and you know women

kind of not owning their sexuality and not knowing what to do with their

sexuality and their feelings and their desires. So what have you seen? I mean we can

kind of we can talk about what you see with your clients but what I'm most

interested in starting with is kind of your personal journey and why why you even

felt to do your doctoral dissertation on desire in within Mormon women and exploring that like why did that why was that even a thing as you went into your career and how did that kind of grab your attention?

Sure.

Well, I think, you know, I, as a young person was always a kind of thoughtful, reflective person that was always kind of studying people, even though I thought that was always kind of studying people even though I thought that was normal I

thought everybody was doing that but I was in a large family eight children and I

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