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This is Our Body Politics. I'm Celeste Headley sitting in for Farahidea. The pandemic wiped out tens of thousands of American jobs, and not surprisingly, women as a group

continued to be the hardest hit. Millions of women are newly unemployed, sparking debates about

how far back these losses could push women's progress in the workplace and exacerbate

already dire gender disparities across the board. What's more, mothers in our new

pandemic normal are experiencing much higher rates of anxiety and depression. A new study shows that

postpartum depression tripled for new mothers. In the face of what appears to be a starkly grim

reality, one woman, activist and founder of Girls Who Code,

and the Marshall Plan for Moms, argues that now is actually a moment of opportunity for women.

That's Reshma Sahjani, author of the international bestseller, Brave Not Perfect,

and Women Who Don't Wait in Line. She has a new book out titled Pay Up the Future of Women and Work and Why It's Different Than You Think.

I spoke with her about the new work and how she sees this moment.

Hi, Rashma.

Hi, how are you?

I'm doing well.

Let's start with this moment.

How would you describe the present landscape for working women? I guess not only

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