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Arts & Ideas

Women, language & experience

Arts & Ideas

BBC

Society & Culture

4.2598 Ratings

🗓️ 6 March 2026

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

In a special programme looking ahead to International Women’s Day on March 8th, Shahidha Bari looks at how women express themselves in language, argument, poetry and art. Her guests include:

Sara Ahmed is the author of No is Not a Lonely Utterance Karen McCarthy Woolf's latest poetry collection is called Unsafe Lauren Elkin's books include Art Monsters: Unruly Bodies in Feminist Art, she translated Simone de Beauvoir's previously-unpublished novel The Inseparables and has a new book coming out in May Vocal Break: On Women, Music, and Power. She has been reading the new translation by Sophie Lewis of Angst by the French feminist thinker Hélène Cixous Mary Wellesley is a historian and author of Hidden Hands: The Lives of Manuscripts and Their Makers Ash Percival-Borley, military historian and former soldier

Producer: Luke Mulhall

Transcript

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0:00.0

BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, Podcasts.

0:07.0

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0:11.0

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0:16.0

It's been an incredible story with these drugs.

0:18.1

The uptake, the amount of product that's been sold, the amount of money

0:21.2

is cost. What the drugs do, how they work, and the knock-on effects of their widespread use.

0:26.5

We'll be sitting here in three years' time going, oh, it caused problems that we're now going

0:31.3

to have to fix. The Hunger Game with me, Professor Gilesio. Listen first on BBC Sounds.

0:38.5

Hello, you're listening to the Arts and Ideas podcast with me, Shahidavari.

0:43.6

Happy International Women's Day on Sunday, that annual date in the calendar when we pay special attention to women's voices.

0:51.4

And the question of how women might want to sound, how they express themselves,

0:56.6

whether that's in the form of speech, song, poetry or complaint, and how they are heard or not

1:02.5

is the subject of our program today. Those were also some of the concerns of the French

1:07.3

feminist philosopher Elaine Sikshu, whose whose novel of 1977 Anxed has just been

1:12.4

newly translated into English, and we'll be thinking about her too. But let's meet our guests

1:16.8

first and hear them. I like to aspire to a radio voice that is clear and low and assured,

1:26.0

rather than bunged up and madly scrambling as I currently am.

1:29.1

But I wonder how they would describe their voices, whether that's in an actual or figurative sense.

1:34.8

And how do they use their voices?

1:37.0

Lauren Elkin, I'm looking at you, translator of French literature, writer of art history,

1:41.8

and a singer in a former life, as you describe, and you're brilliant

1:45.1

forthcoming book about women's voices. How do you describe your voice? And is there a particularly

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