Welcome to the Strong Women Podcast, where each week we explore a deeper understanding of the humanity, value, intellect, and creativity of women.

I'm Erin Kunkel.

And I'm Sarah Stone Street. We're so glad you're here.

Welcome back to the Strong Women podcast. Today, Sarah and I are getting together to talk through our

interview with Rebecca McLaughlin and her new book, Jesus Through the Eyes of Women,

How the First Female Disciples, help us to know and love the Lord. So yeah, we're just going to talk through some of the

things that we learned and were encouraged in through not only reading Rebecca's book, but also

our conversation with her. So Sarah, why don't you start? What are some of the things that really

stood out to you? The first thing that stood out to me, I just loved the way she answered.

Remember when I asked her, what do you hope your daughters learn from this book project?

And I wrote it down word for word. I actually had to go listen to it again because I was like,

this is so good. She said, on the one hand, I would want women to feel in the right

sense empowered when seeing the way Jesus interacts with women in the Gospels. But on the other hand,

I want almost the reverse because the people who Jesus welcomes in the Gospels are those who come to him on their

knees. So basically, a deeper appreciation for an understanding of the fact that Jesus values

women and includes them in his kingdom. You're invited and responsible with your brothers to spread the kingdom,

but then also that sense of humility. That should drive us to our knees, that understanding

that we've been redeemed and our relationship has been restored, and that that should lead to

humility. I like thinking about

that tension that she mentioned because it is it's like it's a tension between that sense of

value that we get from understanding how Jesus viewed people, how he viewed men, how he viewed women, and all the cultural stuff that comes with that.

So there is that, like we need that significance that it gives us. Now, if we hold that in the proper place that our significance comes from, so it comes with a humility

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