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Woman's Hour

Women in Sudan, Jo Hansford, Paula Barker MP, Author Fran Hill

Woman's Hour

BBC

Society & Culture

4.22.9K Ratings

🗓️ 26 April 2023

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

As a ceasefire continues in Sudan we look at how the conflict in the country has impacted women. Nuala is joined by CNN Chief International Investigative Correspondent Nima Elbagir.

Jo Hansford MBE has been described as the “best tinter on the planet”. She started off cutting hair in her parents’ front room and is now one of the most famous female names in the business with two salons, her own range of products, and clients from Elizabeth Hurley, Angelina Jolie and Richard Burton, not to mention she is the woman in charge of the Queen’s crowning glory! Currently celebrating her 30th year in business, Jo joins Nuala to talk about her career, passion for colour and the upcoming coronation.

Labour MP Paula Barker will bid for a new bill next month so care workers are paid minimum wage for travelling time between appointments to close a loophole which campaigners say means care workers' pay dips below the legal minimum. She joins Nuala to discuss.

Fran Hill experienced the foster care system first-hand in the 70s, and her first novel Cuckoo in the Nest, explores what that life can be like for teenagers in care. Fran joins Nuala to discuss how her own experiences informed her writing and her career in teaching.

Presenter: Nuala McGovern Producer: Hanna Ward SM: Andrew Garrett

Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:04.9

Hello, this is Nulem O'Goveran and you're listening to the Woman's Hour Podcast.

0:09.8

Hello, you're very welcome to Woman's Hour, good to have your company.

0:13.3

Well, you will have seen and heard the stories of the attempts to evacuate people from Sudan.

0:18.8

But what about the people who remain? We're going to speak to the journalist, Nema Al-Bageer,

0:24.2

who is Sudanese, as her family has decided to stay for now, at least.

0:29.2

Nema will also tell us about the situation for women in the middle of that conflict.

0:34.0

As she hears from friends, one of whom is pregnant, and also family members who are trying to

0:38.4

access medical care as hospitals are paralyzed by violence. Also today, we'll talk about being

0:45.2

in care, and that's through the lens of Fran Hill's debut novel, Kuku in the Nest.

0:50.4

Fran was fostered as a teenager and she brings us into a world of difficult transitions

0:55.9

and also at times relationships. Fran also describes what happened to her as she, as a teenager,

1:02.8

tried to adapt to different environments in various homes, so that's also coming up.

1:08.3

And I have a question for you today. How long have you been in a relationship with your hairdresser?

1:15.5

Well, Queen Consor Camilla has been a client of Joe Hansford for 35 years.

1:22.0

Can you rival that? We're going to be speaking to Joe this hour. You might know that she's known

1:26.3

as the best tinter on the planet. We'll talk about her long and successful career. Here's some

1:31.6

of her anecdotes about her very famous clients, and also get her advice for you on hair color.

1:38.2

I'd also like to hear from you about your connection to your hairdresser.

1:42.5

Some have a more enduring relationship with their hairdresser than they have with their partner,

1:46.7

for example. Is that you? Or what about having to break up with your hairdresser?

1:52.0

Just a cursory glance online. There's been a lot of articles written about that too.

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