Woman in Labor Spent 3 Hours Fighting a Judge on Zoom to Avoid a Forced C-Section
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🗓️ 25 May 2026
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Summary
OA1264 - Sherise Doyley was in the early stages of labor, in a hospital bed, preparing to deliver her baby, when nurses wheeled in a computer. On the screen was a judge, notifying her of an emergency order by the State of Florida to attempt to force her to undergo a C-section, instead of first attempting vaginal delivery. For 3 hours she advocated for herself, without an attorney, barely covered in a hospital gown.
How was any of this legal? What is happening? Jenessa breaks down the history of our rights to make our own medical decisions and how that is legally modified in pregnancy, Lydia shares her own birth experience and how these situations could be handled with actual compassion, and Thomas holds very still in hopes our eyes are based on movement (just kidding, Thomas is very supportive and also outraged). Come rage against the machine with us and hopefully breathe life into a revived pro-choice movement, before it’s too late.
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Amy Yurkanin (Mar. 14, 2026), They Didn’t Want to Have C-Sections. A Judge Would Decide How They Gave Birth, ProPublica.
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Bracey Harris & Elizabeth Chuck (Jan. 9, 2026), 'Her worst fear has come to pass': Midwife who advocated for Black women dies after giving birth, NBC News.
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Camila Domonoske (Apr. 17, 2018), 'Father Of Gynecology,' Who Experimented On Slaves, No Longer On Pedestal In NYC, NPR.
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(June 2025), Pregnancy Exceptionalism: A Review of Restrictions on Advance Directives, Pregnancy Justice.
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Check out the OA Linktree for all the places to go and things to do!
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Many gynecologists practicing today were taught the cervix has no nerve endings. |
| 0:08.8 | Wrong. |
| 0:17.1 | It is not wrong for a black woman to feel like a bunch of white doctors and white nurses and a white judge telling me what to do is how I end up dead. |
| 0:25.7 | It's statistically correct. |
| 0:33.5 | Hello and welcome to opening arguments. |
| 0:35.3 | This is episode 1264. |
| 0:36.5 | I'm Thomas. |
| 0:37.1 | That over there is real life attorney. Janessa. How are you doing? |
| 0:41.3 | I'm doing pretty good. Tonight I have my last monitoring of Woodcocks in the local park. So that's fun. Come again? |
| 0:51.3 | Am I supposed to have understood any of that? Hold on. |
| 0:55.1 | It's also real life. |
| 0:56.7 | Berther. |
| 0:57.4 | My wife, birther. |
| 0:59.5 | Birthing mother. |
| 1:01.9 | Burthing person. |
| 1:03.1 | Lydia Smith. |
| 1:03.9 | Hello. |
| 1:04.8 | Good. |
| 1:05.4 | I'm excited to be here. |
| 1:07.2 | A Monday? |
| 1:08.4 | I was going to throw to you and figure out why we were throwing to you, except now we have to hear whatever, whatever Genessa just said. Yes, please expand on your woodcock. It sounded something bird related. Did it? Was it bird related, Thomas? Yeah. I mean, I hope not, but it did sound like that. We're going to find out. Janessa, tell us everything. Yeah, the pine bush preserve. |
| 1:28.3 | They do all kinds of citizen science. |
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