Wolf Parade — “I’ll Believe in Anything”

60 Songs That Explain the '90s

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🗓️ 22 April 2026

⏱️ 91 minutes

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Will you come to my cottage this summer and blast Canadian rock music? Rob is asking … for a friend! This week, we analyze the dramatic comeback of the Wolf Parade song “I’ll Believe in Anything” after its use in the hit gay hockey show ‘Heated Rivalry.’ He explains how his focus on the ferocity of Wolf Parade’s music distracted him from the meaning of the lyrics and how they surprised him years later during the song's resurgence. Later, he is joined by Canadian Elamin Abdelmahmoud to talk about the differences in the Montreal and Toronto rock scenes, remind Rob of forgotten Canadian bands, and explain what a “reheat” is. Listen to the songs from the episode: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3jGtG2AAHCdpazCzuSlHrP?si=c5055ad6583f45e6&pt=21d76d95c5a8429ca2ed00ab7a01c09a Host: Rob Harvilla Producers: Olivia Crerie, Julianna Ress, Chris Sutton, and Justin Sayles Additional Video Editing: Kevin Pooler Guest: Elamin Abdelmahmoud Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:04.1	Did you know that the CIA conspired with MTV to make rock music way less popular starting in the late 90s?
1:21.6	No. Billy Corgan said that recently on a podcast, another podcast, not this one.
1:43.0	That's too bad.
1:43.9	Billy Corgan, pugnacious polarizing guitar god frontman for smashing pumpkins, a Chicago rock band that became wildly popular in the early 90s. Billy Corgan maybe kind of thinks the CIA secretly made rock music way less popular for vague nefarious political
2:06.5	reasons at the precise moments that the smashing pumpkins themselves became somewhat
2:12.6	less commercially successful. And that is extremely funny to me. I reserve the right to find that funny.
2:19.5	I will provide footage of Billy himself discussing this matter in just one second here, but I also
2:25.4	need you to know that I love the smashing pumpkins dearly, and I always have, and I always will.
2:31.7	And in fact, recently, frequently, and unrelatedly, adverbs recently,
2:37.9	I've caught myself listening to just the guitar solo from the song Soma, from the wildly popular
2:45.3	in 1993 Smashing Pumpkins album, Siamese Dream. And so, before we discuss Billy Corgan's profoundly amusing CIA-based rock and roll conspiracy theories any further,
2:57.9	we also got to talk about how Billy's guitar solo on Soma kicks astounding quantities of ass.
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