Welcome to the For the Gospel podcast. My name is Kosti Hin and I have the pleasure of being your host. For the Gospel is all about sound doctrine for every day people and on today's episode of Ask My Friend and a brilliant theologian Owen Strand to join us on the For the Gospel podcast to talk about some important issues that will both.

Educate you and I think trigger you to stand with courage for the Gospel Owen Strand my brother thanks for being with us today.

Thank you so much Kosti great to be with you and thanks for having me on. Yeah real quick just off the bat where are you now what's the latest and greatest what are you looking forward to in this season of ministry in life.

Yeah appreciate that question I am right now in Conway Arkansas I am helping lead and teach at a school called Grace Bible theological seminary and really enjoying it and doing some writing and some stuff like that we moved to Conway this past summer my wife Bethany and I and our three little kids.

And yeah we're doing the fall stuff that everybody's doing taken walks and literally there were pumpkin chocolate chip muffins out of the strand household oven this weekend so winning.

There's levels to this and we're winning at all at all levels that sounds that sounds kind of snide I don't mean that but anywhere there's pumpkin chocolate chip muffins there is indeed winning so let's put winning on that level.

Amen you're winning you're winning where it matters most at home and that's that's really what counts I love it well brother I wanted to dig into the idea of wokeness I know everyone's been asking you about this you wrote a book about it called Christianity and wokeness the book is out it is gone far and wide and we're praising God for that but with for the gospel you know this already we like to bring the cookies down from the top shelf it's sound doctrine for everyday people and so I want to get into the practical applications of this.

And I have had the privilege of sitting alone with you you're such a dear brother and a friend recently we're at breakfast you said some things that got my mind going and I thought man we got to do this on the podcast and people will hear you online or see you online and you'll drop a lot of one line truth bombs and that's great.

But what I think people ought to know as well as you're like a iceberg you know the tip is showing up top but 80% of your masses underneath and I've had the joy of of seeing that in our friendship and benefiting from it so I do want to get into two quick questions regarding what you have been doing and what you've been saying regarding wokeness you have jumped into this this firefight of ideologies but you were very prudent you were you were in the middle of the world and you were in the middle of the world and you were in the middle of the world and you were in the middle of the world and you were in the middle of the world and you were in the middle of the world and you were in the middle of the world and you were in the middle of the world and you were in the middle of the world and you were in the middle of the world and you were in the middle of the world and you were in the middle of the world and you were in the middle of the world and you were in the middle of the world and you were in the

you were slow not slow to the fight from a cowardice standpoint but slow to jump in because I know you and when you go all in you go all in all in so it's it's something that I think theologians do very well and prunently we can all learn from as you didn't fire off like a cannon overnight so I think there's multiple angles of wisdom to cover so let's get right to it number one what did you do to prepare for the task of taking a stand and what would you encourage people to do as well before taking a stand against dangerous

ideologies sometimes our urges out pace, our wisdom in that and the number two I do want you to define wokeness and tell us why it's dangerous but first and foremost what did you do to prepare for the stand you've taken.

Sure, appreciate the question.

I came to this issue after others had already

gotten to the issue.

So I was working primarily in academic and theological terms

in terms of writing and that sort of thing.

I was working on the doctrine of man.

So I wrote a book called Reenchanging Humanity

that came out in 2019 and then out of the overflow of that,

with all that was happening sexually in our culture,

my friend Gavin Peacock and I are a mutual friend,

Gavin Peacock and I co-wrote three books called,

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