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Welcome to another episode of Conversations with Coleman.

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All right.

So my guest today needs no introduction.

John McWhorter has a new book called Woke Racism, which is excellent, and you should pause this podcast right now and buy it.

So in this episode, we talk about what wokeness is, as John defines it, and whether the woke can be persuaded.

We talk about the progress America has made on race.

We talk about the extent to which actual racism is still a problem.

We talk about Robin DiAngelo and white fragility.

And finally, we talk about what a real program of uplift would look like for Black America.

So without further ado, John McWhorter.

All right, John McWhorter. Thanks so much for coming on my show again.

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