I'm Tom Morello and you're listening to the Ralph Nader Radio Hour.

Welcome to the Ralph Nader Radio Hour.

My name is Steve Scrovan, along with my co-host, David Feldman.

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Hello, Steve.

And we also have the man to the hour Ralph Nader.

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Hi, anti-racism activists in America have achieved a lot.

They brought us the abolition of slavery in the 1800s and the civil

rights movement of the 1900s.

But what about 21st century anti-racism?

What are today's anti-racism activists fighting for?

And does their work materially improve lives?

Or is it all about the performance of being anti-racist?

Our first guest today will be author of linguist and Columbia University

Professor John McWhorter in his new book, Woke Racism.

He argues that today's anti-racism isn't a pragmatic progressive ideology

making things better for real people.

Instead, he argues that it is actively harmful to black people and is more

like a religion than a true social justice movement.

We look forward to speaking with Professor McWhorter about his book as

well as his thoughts on how illiberal tendencies on both sides of the political

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