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🗓️ 25 May 2023
⏱️ 21 minutes
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Less than 24% of American churchgoers hold to the inerrant authority of the Bible, and the stats for pastors are almost as bleak. We have seen progressive Christianity tear at the fabric of the American church, and it’s becoming more and more difficult to find a church where we want to take our families. Lucas Miles is a leading voice in the cultural discussion on theology, politics, and culture. You won’t want to miss this discussion! SHOW NOTES
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0:00.0 | Hey, everybody. This is Heidi St. John. As you can see, I'm coming to you live from the floor of NRB. |
0:07.2 | We are here at the National Religious Broadcasters Association, talking to people about the Heidi |
0:11.7 | St. John podcast and getting some fantastic interviews. Today, I'm going to be interviewing Pastor Lucas |
0:18.4 | Miles. He is the author of a book that I am a super fan of called Woke Jesus. When that book came out, |
0:24.9 | I talked about it here at the show. Very few pastors have had the courage to tackle progressive |
0:30.3 | Christianity, call it out and talk about why we need to be grounded in the doctrine that comes |
0:36.0 | from the Bible. This is going to be a great conversation. Stick around. I think you're going to be encouraged. |
0:48.1 | So I'm glad to have Lucas Miles here with me on the floor of NRB. And we're going to be talking |
0:53.4 | about his book, Woke Jesus. And what is progressive Christianity? You guys are familiar with this. |
0:59.1 | I talk about it all the time on my show, but I'm thrilled to have Miles here. Thank you for coming. |
1:03.5 | Thanks for having me. I appreciate it. This is an honor for me. You've been at the front of this |
1:07.6 | discussion now for quite some time. And I come from the Pacific Northwest. So I don't know how often |
1:13.1 | you get out to the Portland Vancouver area. Not very often. But you know of what I speak. 100%. |
1:18.7 | So the you can go into downtown Portland on any given day and any given Sunday. And you're going |
1:24.3 | to see 15 churches flying the transgender flag on front of their churches. I just spoke at a Calvary |
1:30.2 | Chapel up in Longview, Washington recently about the state of education in the United States, |
1:35.6 | particularly in Washington state. And wouldn't you know it? There was a UCC minister out there with a |
1:40.9 | bubble machine. It was amazing. And about 15 transgender activists yelling and screaming about how |
1:47.2 | this wasn't Christianity. This is the message that is coming out of the progressive church. I'm |
1:52.0 | going to play a clip from Salvatore Sapienza, who is a pastor of the UCC church, of course, |
1:59.2 | in Douglas County, Michigan. He's married to his husband Greg Smith. So you kind of know where |
2:03.8 | this is going to go. I want to play it and sort of get your reaction. Okay. Born again. What is it? |
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