Welcome to the political orphanage, a home for plucky misfits and problem solvers.

I'm Andrew Heaton and I am Giddy and beaming from the interview you're about to hear.

My guest today is absolutely delightful. I am full on swooning after talking to her and I learned a lot.

In fact, I enjoy this interview so much. I don't even want to drag out the intro. Let's just jump right in

although I will point out that we are now for the first time ever posting the political

orphanage on YouTube so if you want to watch me and Batcha, that's an

option too. You can go on YouTube and search for the political orphanage. Here we go.

My guest today is Bacha Unger Sargan. She is the

deputy opinion editor of Newsweek and the author of Bad News how woke media is

undermining democracy. You can find that book and all of the books

discussed on this show by going to mightyheaten.com slash featured. And I'll add that you are a

listener requested guest. I found out about you and was told to bring you on the program by

listeners of the show particularly on Patreon so and I'm delighted to have you here

I'm so honored wow I'm thank you listeners. That's I think that's that's a first for me. I feel so

humbled. Well and I'll add the we've already gone through our love fest off camera

but I've been listening to your interviews with other people in preparation to talking to you.

I am smitten. I am so excited to talk to you. I think that you are a wonderful representative of somebody who

both has a unique and different take on the political landscape, which is inherently fascinating.

But more to the point, I think you're just a really nice

person who engages in good faith arguments with people like I've listened to you talk to

wildly different viewpoints than you have and you guys always have a fun time.

So I hope you become president of the media and you become the standard bearer of journalism

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