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Offline with Jon Favreau

Woke AI, Libs of TikTok DESTROYED, and the Offline Reality of Long COVID

Offline with Jon Favreau

Crooked Media

Society & Culture, News

4.72K Ratings

🗓️ 3 March 2024

⏱️ 73 minutes

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Summary

Zeynep Tufekci, sociologist and New York Times opinion columnist, joins Offline to discuss why long covid has unleashed so much online vitriol, united the Senate, and exposed just how little Americans trust institutions. Jon also sits down with his producer, Emma, to talk about her firsthand experience with the disease, and how she navigates an information environment rife with suffering and confusion—but also solidarity and hope. But first! Jon and Max weigh in on Google’s new “woke” AI, which has been cooking up images of Asian founding fathers, Black Vikings, and, unfortunately, racially diverse Nazis. Then, they break down Taylor Lorenz’s interview with the infamous founder of Libs of TikTok, and how the long-form, short-form, and print coverage of the conversation each land differently online.

Transcript

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0:00.0

I really put the blame on the medical authorities and the NIH and the CDC to be honest

0:05.8

because if you leave very sick people to their own devices and without treatments and without even proper acknowledgement, right?

0:15.0

And their only way of connecting to one another is online.

0:20.0

Of course they're going to just connect with each other online, which is perfectly fine.

0:25.7

But what you have happened is that a large number of people who are not sick and who are just writing an online wave. They're like influencers.

0:35.6

Pray on these people.

0:37.6

I'm John Favreau. Welcome to offline.

0:47.0

I'm John Favreau. I'm Max Fisher and you just heard from this week's guest Princeton

0:49.6

Sociologist and New York Times opinion columnist Zayneptu Fetchi.

0:53.2

Love Zayam.

0:53.8

She's great.

0:54.8

I've wanted to talk to her for a while because she writes brilliantly about the impact of

0:59.6

technology on society, which we love here.

1:01.9

We love that here.

1:03.0

But over the last few years, she's also become an expert on the impact of the pandemic on society.

1:09.1

So I wanted to bring around to discuss a topic that combines both those areas of expertise, how the online

1:13.9

discourse around COVID impacts the offline reality of the people who are still

1:19.0

struggling with its effects. A few weeks ago, Zaynet published a piece for the

1:22.3

Times where she posed the question,

1:24.0

could Long COVID be the Senate's bipartisan cause?

1:27.0

It was about the Senate's first ever hearing on Long COVID, which she attended,

1:31.0

and at a time when politics is angry polarized shit show

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