Welcome back to the Word on Fire Show. I'm your host Matthew Petruzig.

Today we are excited to bring you the first part of a discussion that Bishop Barron recently had with Dr. Todd Warner

on the way a Catholic should approach the crossroads of religion and politics.

Enjoy. On November 19th, 1863, as the towering yet stooped Abraham Lincoln peered across the killing fields of Gettysburg, he declared,

quote,

It is for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us,

that from these honored dead we take increased

devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion.

That we hear highly resolved that these dead shall not have died in vain, that this nation under

God shall have a new birth of freedom, and that government of the people, by the people, for the people,

shall not perish from the earth."

Close quote.

Lincoln's challenge was to save democracy.

As we see it today, was it worth it?

Bishop Robert Barron in this most political of years on democracy, the good, the bad, and the ugly now.

What is democracy?

We hold these truths to be self-evident. What is democracy?

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are

endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights that among these are life, liberty,

and the pursuit of happiness.

That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.

That whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it.

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