Welcome back to the Word on Fire show. I'm Brandon Vot the host and the content director

here at Word on Fire. Joining us is the main man Bishop Robert Barron. Bishop Barron,

welcome.

Brandon always a joy to talk to you.

Hey, we had some exciting news this week. Subscribers to the Wall Street Journal would have

received their newspaper, opened it up to the op-ed section and would have seen a very

praiseworthy article about you. It was titled The Bishop of Catholic Social Media and

it included some interview questions with you. You covered a few different topics, but

tell us about that. How'd that come about and what was your reaction?

Yeah, I was delighted. Matthew Hennessey, you did the article. Call me many months ago now

and proposed this idea of coming out for an interview. So I said sure, and this happened

a long time ago. I'd say maybe it was last spring he interviewed me. And we covered

a lot of ground. He came here for probably two hours, talked about everything on the

sun, you know. Then what happened was supposed to run during the summer at some point, but

the whole mechanic thing and the whole scandal came out. And I think the Wall Street Journal

said, look, we can't run right now this article on, you know, something positive article

about the Catholic Church, it might look like we're out of touch. So they said, we're

going to hold off on it. Well, to be honest with you, I didn't think it would ever resurface.

But then just a few weeks ago, Matthew called back and said, hey, now we think we can run

the article. So, you know, I was delighted. And it's always the case with journalism that

you get like a little teeny tiny portion of what you talked about in that article. And

of course, the Wall Street Journal readers are more interested in probably politics and

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