Welcome back to the Word on Fire show. I'm Brandon Vot, the host and the content director

here at Word on Fire, joining us from Santa Barbara, California. Is Bishop Robert

Baron? Bishop Baron, good to talk with you. Hey Brandon, always a great joy to be with

you. His question I always love to ask you, because you always have a good answer. What

good books are you reading lately? Oh, what am I reading right now? I'm reading a book

that you sent me by Jordan Peterson. A book he wrote some years ago, but trying to get

a sense of his, what's in his mind? Also reading another gift I received, which is a biography

of Richard Nixon. And what's the author's name? It's feral, I think. It's good. And I love

history and biography. So I'm enjoying that. I'm also reading the biography of Leonardo

Da Vinci by Walter Isaacson. I got that for Christmas and read about a hundred pages

of that. So that's what I'm working on. And what's the more academically, one of my

reading? I don't know, but those are a few. Anything strike you in the Da Vinci biography

so far? Yeah, what he's doing, which I think is kind of cool. He wrote the biography of Steve

Jobs. And it was the, it was the coming together of the technical and the artistic that he liked

in in jobs. So all these machines that we all use that are kind of elegantly designed.

And he sees the forerunner of that in Leonardo, who we know of course is a great artist,

but was also a pretty fantastic engineer and designer of mechanical things. And that's

what he's, that's what he's exploring. Well, today we're going to be talking about a document

that was written almost 50 years ago. It's titled Humana Vite and don't let the Latin

title confuse you. The documents in English, it's Pope Paul VI famous and somewhat controversial

and cyclical. Again, it was written in July 1968. And it is led to a lot of battles and

disagreements and controversy over the years. We're going to get into the content of the

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