Let's say you're going to take an Uber or a lift.

You get out your phone, request the ride, and on the other end, this is what the driver

gets.

There's about 8 to 10 seconds of very loud pinging that you can't really miss if you're

in the car with your phone, and you get a little bit of initial information about the passenger,

but you don't know much.

That's Harry Campbell, who used to be a driver.

He was an engineer from 9 to 5, and he drove ride chairs in his off hours.

You sort of only know about where they are, and about how long it's going to take to get

to them, and then you have the option to accept or ignore that request.

If you accept the request, the Uber driver app will then tell you how to route and navigate

towards that passenger.

Harry has a blog now, it's called The Ride Chair Guy, and it's become his full-time job.

He talks to drivers, surveys them on things like pay and working conditions.

He writes articles and acts as a hub of information about the industry.

I wanted to talk to Harry because he knows what it's like to be a driver, and he understands

the ride chair world from firsthand experience.

Right now, the big thing in that world is a new law in California.

California's governor is expected to sign new legislation intended to help the legion

of independent workers.

Come January, it will classify ride chair drivers, and a lot of other gig economy workers,

but it's independent contractors, the way they are now, but as employees.

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