And the second thing we needed to do, we needed to take all these great insights and make sure we brought them to the surface so that the user didn't have to work hard to discover all these cool nuggets and learning and actionable items in their training.

We wanted to surface that for them.

That Trekkon Show, 199.

Hey, what's up, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of That Traathlon show, the podcast

presented by Scientific Traathlon.com. I'm your host Michael, and on today's episode, I interview

Tim Kusik, who is the Training Peaks WCO5 product leader and the owner of Valosius Endurance Coaching.

Tim coaches several pro cyclists such as, for example, world champion Amber Neben.

But our discussion today is mostly around WKO5, the analytics software.

I highly recommend if you haven't that you listen to episode 72 where I previously

interviewed Tim about WCO4 first because what we discussed there, that's really the basics

of WKO4 or WKO in general. And those things have stayed the same, the power duration model,

the power duration curve and all the things

that come from it so so today's episode is a follow up to episode 72 we're talking about we're talking

about things that are new to wkO5 and and i think that you'll get the most out of this if you already

know a bit more about wkO4 of course if you're already a bit more about WKO4. Of course, if you're already a user

of WCO software, then you might be able to jump right into this episode. But importantly about

this episode, it's definitely not just new features and metrics and data, but it's how to

apply the information and improve your decision-making as a coach

or a self-coached athlete. So we don't want to get overwhelmed with data, as Tim points out,

on the contrary. We want to make sure that data facilitates better decision-making and

the decision science is a point that he makes repeatedly through the interview

and I really liked that concept. Before the interview, big thanks to our sponsors. First, we have

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