Welcome to Just Between Us, the podcast with all of the answers, some of the time.

A bit of a different thing going on this week.

You've been immature and you've lied.

And now you're trying to turn it on me and manipulate me and gaslight me.

I was trying to manipulate you.

Diana, you would be chucking their clothes out of the window.

I know, I'd be like, are you joking?

I don't know.

I guess you'd have to ask. Someone that has sex. Someone that has sex. Right. And remember,

it's just between us. Hello and welcome to the History Extra podcast from BBC History Magazine, Britain's best-selling history magazine.

I'm Ellie Cawthorne.

60 years ago, on the 13th of August, 1961, the Berlin Wall went up, dividing the German

city in two for almost 30 years, until the barrier was dramatically torn down in November

1989.

In today's special episode, we're bringing you the reflections of three men who were in

Berlin during this key episode of Cold War history.

You'll be hearing from Major General Sir Robert Corbett, who was a young officer in the

city when the war went up in 1961, and was

also commandant of the British sector in 1989.

Joining him is the journalist Mark Wood, a former editor-in-chief of Reuters, who was a reporter

based in East Germany during the 70s and 80s.

And completing the panel is the broadcaster Alastair Stewart, who covered the fall of the Berlin

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