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Wretched Radio with Todd Friel

Witness Wednesday: What If You’ll Never Be “Good Enough” For Heaven?

Wretched Radio with Todd Friel

Fortis Institute

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.83.2K Ratings

🗓️ 21 January 2026

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

It’s Witness Wednesday! Join Todd Friel on campus at Georgia Tech as he engages students in conversations about faith, where we come from, and the creation of the universe. Through several conversations, listen along as the truth of God’s word is brought to bear on the worldview of several real-life students. Segment 1 • Todd Friel stops an architecture student and uses a building’s design to argue for a Creator. • The student insists the universe isn’t really “organized,” pushing Todd to press the bigger question: How much evidence is enough? • The conversation turns into a blunt reality check about what people ignore every day, even when it’s right in front of their nose. Segment 2 • Todd talks with a biomedical engineering student who says that some “impossible” events are totally plausible. • The student claims morality is subjective and shrugs off guilt—until Todd uses the Ten Commandments to test the “good person” claim. • The exchange ends with the student frankly admitting he doesn’t care about judgment. Segment 3 • Todd meets Junior from Jamaica, who calls himself a Christian… but can’t explain the gospel clearly. • Todd walks Junior through God’s law, exposing how “good person” confidence collapses under honest self-examination. • Junior admits he’s still “searching,” and Todd urges him not to confuse religious familiarity with true saving faith. Segment 4 • Todd speaks with Dan, a Catholic civil engineering student, and presses the logic of salvation-by-good-works until it breaks. • The courtroom analogy lands hard: being “sorry” or doing “extra good” doesn’t erase real guilt, or satisfy justice. • Todd lays out the “great exchange” and calls listeners to stop striving, repent, and trust Christ alone before it’s too late. ___ Thanks for listening! Wretched Radio would not be possible without the financial support of our Gospel Partners. If you would like to support Wretched Radio we would be extremely grateful. VISIT https://fortisinstitute.org/donate/ If you are already a Gospel Partner we couldn’t be more thankful for you if we tried!

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0:00.0

Ritchin Radio begins in three, two, one.

0:08.6

If the God of the Bible really exists, I would go gladly to hell.

0:12.3

And anybody's happy to go to heaven to worship such a creature is morally bankrupt.

0:16.1

It is because God's wrath is real, that his mercy is relevant.

0:22.5

Unless you have a real wrath, the biblical concepts of mercy and of grace are robbed of their meaning.

0:30.7

It's time for Wretched Radio with Todd Freel.

0:34.1

It's witnessed Wednesday at Georgia Tech.

0:36.3

Hey, young man, while you're walking that way, can I talk to you on the radio? Okay. What are you studying? Uh, architecture. Cool. All right, I'm going to throw something at you, my architecture friend. There's a building that's being built right there. I'm aware. Yep. Who designed that bad boy? Uh, I don't know. Do you think anybody was involved in the design? I'm pretty sure someone was. An architect, right? Yes.

0:57.3

How do you think that anybody was involved in the design i'm pretty sure someone

0:55.7

an architect right yes how do you know that uh because architect's design a lot of buildings

1:00.5

can a building go up like that that's that sophisticated without an architect uh i don't know

1:09.5

don't think i mean but ultimately somebody had to be put in the design.

1:13.3

Yeah.

1:13.7

All right. Do you have any idea where I'm leading you right now?

1:16.6

You're probably leading me to the fact that no architect was involved?

1:20.2

Well, that would be the theory of the Big Bang,

1:23.0

that there was no architect involved with the creation of the universe.

1:27.0

That's kind of the Big Bang idea that this just all kind of exploded, and here it is all designed.

1:32.6

And to me, it makes about as much sense as saying that building went up without an architect.

1:36.8

What do you think? Am I nuts?

1:38.7

I don't know.

1:40.6

So how do you think we got here, Dan?

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