Witness 03: Partner with the Holy Spirit (featuring Pete Hughes)
Rule of Life
Practicing the Way
4.8 • 803 Ratings
🗓️ 10 March 2026
⏱️ 68 minutes
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Summary
What changes when we know that the Holy Spirit is already at work in the lives of those around us who don’t know Jesus? Join John Mark Comer and Shelbi Shutt as they discuss the role of the Holy Spirit in our witness, featuring conversations with everyday people in the West, testimonials from real-life practitioners, and an interview with luminary Pete Hughes.
In this episode's luminary interview, John Mark and Pete explore the Spirit's relationship to the practice of witness through inspiring true stories and practical best practices for growing in the discernment of God's work and leading. Pete is one of the Lead Pastors at KXC (King’s Cross Church) in London, a vibrant community known for its heart for worship, prayer, and mission. Alongside his wife Bea, Pete has spent the last decade planting and leading a church in one of the most secularized corners of the West. You can connect with Pete and the ministry of Kings Cross Church on social media at @petehughes and @kxchurch.
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| 0:00.0 | I think there's definitely a burden to share the gospel and to fulfill the great commission. |
| 0:06.5 | It released some of the burden to know that God is there with me as I'm having those conversations. |
| 0:12.1 | But it's a lot more about being aware of the Holy Spirit and recognizing those God moments and partnering with him in that. I think of it as like seeds and ultimately it's like God who makes it grow |
| 0:25.6 | and maybe you're just like at the end of it and then you can help someone just like accept Christ, |
| 0:31.6 | but maybe you're actually at the beginning too and I think just being open to like how he's working |
| 0:36.6 | in other people's lives. |
| 0:38.3 | I used to think that I needed to say something and that there was a bit of a rush for me to |
| 0:45.3 | to put language to what I think a person needs and where they're at in that process. |
| 0:53.3 | I've been able to trust more that God is always at work, and he's always drawing people |
| 0:59.7 | closer to him, and I can trust that God will lead me and inspire me to partner with him |
| 1:07.8 | in that process in the best way. |
| 1:13.9 | You're listening to the Rule of Life podcast from practicing the way. |
| 1:18.4 | In each season, we explore an ancient practice from the way of Jesus |
| 1:22.3 | and its relevance for the modern era. |
| 1:25.0 | This is Season 9, Witness. |
| 1:27.1 | Music for the modern era. This is Season 9 Witness. Hey, everyone, welcome to episode three of the Roald Life podcast. |
| 1:52.6 | In our last episode, we talked about how hospitality plays this really important and powerful role as it relates to cutting through the hostility |
| 2:02.1 | and the apathy that a lot of people can experience when they engage the practice of witness. |
| 2:07.7 | And today, we're going to dive into talking about the role that the Holy Spirit plays in all |
| 2:12.3 | of this. And so, John Mark, I'm wondering if just off the top, you know, when I think about |
| 2:17.2 | what we're going to be unpacking today, I think oftentimes there's this underlying assumption that it's our job to bring God to the people. |
| 2:26.0 | And with that, it can be like, it can feel really heavy and burdensome even. |
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