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Yeah, I think that was an unfair narrative that started coming in.

So like you're saying with Lauren wanted someone off the show, that was the plan.

And she had that conversation with MTV, that Heidi and Spencer need to be off the show and

they told her to walk. So at that point, and they told us the main executives at the time,

they're like, Lauren wants you off. And we told her she can walk because, you know, and so it came

to that point of what it was, but it was really hard having friends and having my best friend

at the time to turn on me publicly also and be like and bring you in and say, she's brainwashed when

it's not fair. And I want to. I don't think we were because you're with Spencer. So we didn't

really hang out much at that point. And then I Lauren didn't, I don't know if she had a lot of

friends or not, but I'd always invite her out off camera too to go on dates or whatever I think

it's in the upcoming episodes. But yeah, she had a lot to say and I feel like I was her venting

person and just hearing everything. And I was like, oh my gosh, she did that.

Of course. So I would have been the same as you. I would have died, you know, like here's Lauren.

And this is my new friend and we're hanging out and you're hearing one side. Well, that's what

you're going to do. And you're going to listen to that friend and have that conversation.

Do you think that Lauren was also a little skeptical of people that were coming? I mean,

obviously not you because you've been friends with her for so long, but also just coming to try

to be on a reality television show, not you guys, but maybe you guys went out of first, but like,

yeah, once it got hot, like, quick question. Did you guys asked Lauren to come on here to like, yeah,

something really tall. We don't really. Well, we reached out to her agent, her publicist and

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