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With AI Agents Now Trading Crypto, What Does Their Future Look Like? - Ep. 758

Unchained

Laura Shin

Business News, News, Tech News

4.61.3K Ratings

🗓️ 3 January 2025

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, Shaw Walters, founder of Eliza Labs, takes us through his journey of launching ai16z, a decentralized AI-driven investment DAO, and the explosive growth of the Eliza open-source framework. Shaw explains how AI agents are evolving beyond "reply bots" to serve as powerful tools for financial autonomy, community investment, and user empowerment. He shares the challenges of building trust between humans and AI, the possibilities of agents trading across multiple blockchains, and his vision of a world where financial freedom drives human progress. Show highlights: Why Shaw decided to launch ai16z What he believes AI agents are useful for  What the Eliza framework is and the role it plays being an open-source project Whether AI agents can be good at trading Why the Eliza framework works on every chain, even though there’s a focus on Solana How and why the AI version of Marc Andreessen was launched Whether ai16z will launch its own layer 1 and the details on the future launchpad How agents on social media could be really useful instead of being “reply bots” What Shaw thinks overall of the AI space and how it’ll impact human society Visit our website for breaking news, analysis, op-eds, articles to learn about crypto, and much more: unchainedcrypto.com Thank you to our sponsors! Polkadot Kelp DAO Guest Shaw Walters, Founder of Eliza Labs Links Unchained:  The Backstory of How 3 AI Agents Led to the Rise of the Hottest Memecoin, GOAT AI Meme Tokens Like FARTCOIN Dominate Crypto Markets, Suggesting Powerful 2025 Trend The Block: AI agent platform ai16z considers tokenomics overhaul and launching Layer 1 blockchain Chain of Thought: Ai16z: The Bazaar of Agents Cygaar: How the Eliza Framework works Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 03:01 Shaw’s inspiration for launching ai16z 08:45 How AI agents are evolving beyond simple tasks 10:28 The Eliza framework and its open-source impact 13:22 Can AI agents excel at trading? 21:19 Why Eliza works seamlessly across multiple blockchains 24:08 The story behind launching Marc Andreessen as an AI character 35:18 Plans for ai16z’s layer 1 and its future launchpad 40:23 Transforming AI agents into more than just “reply bots” 43:26 Shaw’s vision for AI’s role in shaping human society 49:26 Crypto News Recap Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

So, like, you know, if I'm going to be part of the acceleration of that world where people

0:05.6

don't have jobs, I also want to be part of the solution that enables people to have enough

0:09.9

and to have time to the things that they really want to be doing.

0:13.0

I think people could be spending a lot more time with their friends.

0:15.7

They could be spending time having families.

0:18.1

They could be taking care of their parents, taking care of their children.

0:25.3

They could be pursuing passions and art and things that aren't profitable. They could be spending their time going to space or building really hard things. I mean, I can just think of a thousand

0:30.7

things that people could be doing pursuing spirituality and like, why am I really here? What is this?

0:36.0

And what is the purpose of all of this?

0:40.7

I just don't think that gets unlocked until we are financially free.

0:42.5

I think it all starts with financial freedom. And then every other freedom kind of comes from that.

0:49.0

Hi, everyone. Welcome to Unchained.

0:51.0

You're a no-hype resource for all things, crypto.

0:52.8

I'm your host, Laura Shin.

0:54.5

We are now featuring comments from investors on the show. In the last major episode before the

0:58.8

New Year, Solana Foundation president, Lily Lou, caused a firestorm on X when she said that

1:03.9

she didn't think that base could compete with Solana. She called base, quote, a corporate L2,

1:09.0

and said that it was not only parasitic to Ethereum,

1:11.5

but actually cannibalistic. Well, the responses were pretty overwhelming. The comments

1:16.9

range from short clips like this one by Jenny from the blog. Wait, Solana is decentralized,

1:22.1

to much longer rebuttals like this one from Audreau Faria. In it, he noted Ethereum's

1:26.5

dominance as the most decentralized and robust layer 1.

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