You're listening to the Allender Center podcast with Dr. Dan Allender.

This week, Dan is joined once again by his longtime best friend, biblical scholar Dr. Trumper Longman

III. Dan and Trumper kick off a three-part series unpacking the complex category of wisdom.

In this episode, they start with a loaded and crucial concept,

the fear of the Lord.

Well, it is my great, great pleasure to be with my best friend and a, oh, so noted scholar.

In fact, currently a distinguished scholar, aren't you, Dr. Trumper Longman?

Trenper, it's so good to be with you.

And let me also confess, this is the third time I've attempted to record our conversation.

Once when we taught this class about a year ago, once over the phone, and now we're again together as we teach a class on the theology of eroticism. But our conversation today is going to be

about wisdom. Yes, I was going to begin, Dan, first of all, it's wonderful to be with you as always

by asking you if the record button was pushed. I'm going to let you see it. Look, see,

our voices are moving. I'm going to let you see it. Look, see, it's, our voices are moving.

All right.

I did the best.

If this doesn't work, I'm just,

I don't know what to say.

Well, I know what to say.

I know what to say that if this doesn't work,

I'm not doing it.

I'm done.

I'm done.

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