Wired’s Katie Drummond: The TikTok Ban Is “Rooted in Hypocrisy”; Plus, Hannah Goldfield on Culinary TikTok

The New Yorker Radio Hour

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🗓️ 10 May 2024

⏱️ 33 minutes

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A tech journalist sees Silicon Valley making policy—and lawmakers refusing to regulate social media. Plus, salmon in the dishwasher, and other highlights of culinary TikTok.

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0:00.0	This is the New Yorker Radio Hour, a co-production of WNYC Studios and the New Yorker.
0:07.0	Welcome to the New Yorker Radio Hour. I'm David Remnick. I think I first
0:15.6	started hearing about a ban on Tik-Tok in the summer of 2020. Donald Trump
0:21.0	was flexing his muscles against China and he signed an executive order that August.
0:26.0	And I confess, I imagine some disgruntled teenagers out there, but I didn't give it a great deal of thought.
0:33.0	A few months later, a judge appointed by Trump no less blocked the order as arbitrary and capricious.
0:40.0	But now the Tik-Toc ban is back and this time it may well stick.
0:45.0	Congress just passed it with bipartisan support and President Biden signed it into law.
0:51.0	It stipulates that Tik-Tok will be removed from
0:54.7	app stores unless its owner, Bight Dance, sells it, and Bight Dance in turn has now
1:00.6	filed a lawsuit against the government.
1:03.0	Around 170 million Americans are on Tik-Tok,
1:08.0	about half the population.
1:10.0	Whole economies depend on Tik-Tok.
1:12.0	Millions of people get their news from Tik-Tok.
1:16.5	So the question is, why ban Tik-Tok?
1:19.8	I'll put that question to two experts.
1:22.4	Jacob Helberg, a tech executive,
1:24.1	and a proponent of the band
1:25.2	will join me in our next episode,
1:27.8	but today I'll speak with a skeptic.
1:30.0	Katie Drummond, the Global Editorial Director of Wired magazine.
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