Winter Is Coming: Fascism Is Back
The Owen Jones Podcast
Owen Jones
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🗓️ 10 June 2023
⏱️ 12 minutes
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Summary
The far-right is on the march in Europe and beyond - and nothing is stopping them.
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| 0:00.0 | Winter is coming. Now look, this isn't to be alarmist. Underpinning my politics is a belief |
| 0:05.6 | that you have to give people hope, that is a belief that the injustices that don't just |
| 0:11.0 | scar our current living reality, but define it in so many ways, can be overcome with determination, |
| 0:16.5 | courage and imagination, that all of us using our combined collective power together |
| 0:22.2 | can create transformative change. That doesn't mean closing our eyes to what are profoundly |
| 0:28.9 | unsettling, disturbing and unpleasant realities, because unless we acknowledge what we're |
| 0:34.3 | up against, then we won't understand how to fight back. Now, we need to be open and honest |
| 0:40.3 | about a crisis, a looming crisis, which is not receiving the attention that it desperately needs. |
| 0:46.4 | And that is that across Europe and the United States, the far right is on the march and either |
| 0:51.2 | in power in some form or on the brink of power. Now, after the genocidal carnage of World War II, |
| 0:58.0 | there was something of a consensus in what we describe as the Western world, that the far right |
| 1:03.2 | were beyond the political pale, that a cordon sanitaire needed to be placed around them, |
| 1:08.8 | and that they should never ever ever be allowed anywhere near power. Now, that protective ring, |
| 1:14.8 | whatever you want to call it, has been shredded. Let me just talk through exactly what were |
| 1:21.2 | up against. Now, firstly, it's important to say it's not just Europe we're talking about here. |
| 1:26.0 | The far right in the United States context, of course, surged through one of the two parties |
| 1:30.9 | of Republicans, what we've seen as a process of what we could describe as normalization, |
| 1:35.5 | that's where what you want to think of is very unusual of extreme, becomes part of the everyday, |
| 1:40.6 | part of the furniture, if you like, that once what once provoked horror or shock, outrage, |
| 1:47.5 | you barely even bat your eyes at. Now, we saw that with Donald Trump. Donald Trump, when he first |
| 1:52.8 | became, I guess, a contender for the Republican nominee, at the end of 2015, people listened to his |
| 1:59.4 | pronouncements, but kind of shocked and horrified, it didn't take it seriously. But by the end of |
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