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X-Ray Vision

Winter Gothic, Plus an Interview with Author Lee Lai

X-Ray Vision

iHeartPodcasts

Tv & Film, Society & Culture

4.71.5K Ratings

🗓️ 3 January 2026

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Forget Santas and sleighs, it’s time for cold sadness and dark days! The XRV Scream Queens are here to discuss the genre of “winter gothic”, how they each define it and their favorites in this burgeoning subgenre.

Joelle’s picks:
Sleepy Hollow
30 Days of Night
Kill Bill

Rosie’s picks:
The Lodge
Ravenous
Gingersnaps back

Carmen’s picks:
Batman Returns
Crimson Peak
Mothman Prophecies

 

Plus an interview with Lee Lai, illustrator, cartoonist, and National Book Foundation Honoree.

 

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:02.5

Guaranteed Human.

0:06.2

This episode will contain spoilers for very old movies and maybe some newer movies, so don't worry.

0:13.4

We'll give you a heads up.

0:14.7

Plus, after our winter Gothic deep dive, I interview illustrator and cartoonist Lee Lai,

0:20.4

author of Stonefruit, and the upcoming

0:23.1

fantastic graphic novel, Fans of the Bear, Canon.

0:48.6

Music Hello, my name is Rosie Knight, and today we're talking about winter gothic.

0:50.7

I'm Carmen LaRoneck.

0:52.5

And I'm Joelle Vonek.

0:54.1

And we're the scream queens. And we're the screen queens. And we're the long. And I'm Joelle Vonek. And we're the scream queens.

0:56.8

And we're the screen queens.

0:57.6

Hey!

1:04.5

Welcome back to X-ray Vision, the podcast where we dive deep into your favorite shows,

1:06.5

movies, comics, and pop culture.

1:10.8

We are here at IHart Podcasts, as always, where we are bringing you three episodes a week plus news. In today's episode, we are breaking down another subgenre of horror and maybe some

1:17.7

other genres, as we have begun to realize while we dig in, Winter Gothic. So we're going to

1:23.0

start. What is Winter Gothic? We're going to lay out our rules and the movies that we think fit into

1:28.3

them. Then we're going to do the scream queen picks, recommend you some great winter gothics to watch.

1:33.2

And then we're going to ask, is Stephen King the king of this subgenre? But first, a quick discussion.

1:41.5

Carmen, let's begin with you. Yeah.

1:49.7

So I thought it'd be great to start this conversation by, just like we did with our sci-fi debate,

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