This is wins and losses with clay trevice. Clay talks with the most entertaining people

in sports entertainment and business. Now here's clay trevice.

Welcome and wins and losses. This is episode four so far. You have heard from three pretty

awesome guys. Jason Whitlock. You've heard from Shannon Terry who founded 24-7 sports as well

as rivals and you heard last week from a really intriguing guest as well. SEC Commissioner Greg

Sanky. We are joined now by Washington State head football coach Mike Leach who I think you guys

are going to enjoy as well. And if you haven't already go ahead and subscribe to the wins and

losses podcast. The idea behind the wins and losses podcast is we explore many of the successes

and failures of a variety of different figures across the world of sports media politics and

business. And it sounds like we've caught him in the middle of a hurricane. Mike Leach, are you there?

Yeah. Yeah, no it's raining here. It's getting after it pretty good.

Are you in Pullman? No, I just got to Florida a couple days ago and so it's now I had a

lightning strike that rumbled the whole neighborhood. You can feel you can feel stuff shake on

all sides. So yeah, it's like being kind of being in a cannon battle or something.

Are you down in the keys right now? Yeah. What do you like about the Florida keys? Like I know

you spend a lot of time down there and and have spent a lot of time down there over the years. What

is it about that area that appeals to you? I like that everything simplified as long as I've

been down here and I lived here for two years. I never had a car. Didn't have a car the whole time.

Just bike or walk. I get in great shape down here just by accident. You know, I'll do the

proofnixer sizes on my deck whether it's pushups or sit-ups and I'm in such a bad shape now

off the way to a couple days to make another run of those. But then you run into good food here.

You know, because you can accidentally eat fish twice a day down here. And then if you're bored,

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