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Here are your hosts, Ryan Hanna, Brad Criscoe, and Evan Lopsinger.

I like that when we start this show. Ryan has a sit in silence for 10 seconds at the beginning,

like a kindergarten class just to like

prove that we're going to be on our best behavior. Knowing full well, we never will be.

No, you are for like 15, 20 minutes and then it all falls apart after that. It's the least,

it's the only way I can elicit any kind of control in order. Because when Brad and Evan are in

studio,

I don't know, something about being physically in the same space, you can have a little bit of

control. But when we're all remote like this and Max, the ultimate shit distributor is in the

mix, I have no more control over the Wingwheel podcast. The second that you say, give me 10 seconds of silence, the only, just like being back

in fourth grade, I just start thinking about what would be a funny thing to yell right now.

And you've never done it, coward.

So far.

Folks, welcome to the Winged Wheel podcast, remote edition because this is another good in the room edition of

the show which means we're joined by Max Bultman of the Athletic Detroit for the entire episode

and Max we timed this well because I believe in in articles and previous conversations you've

said this is about the time where you are going to evaluate where the Red Wings are at after this road trip and

you know we'll see how they do after the tough teams January 22nd we're here so perfect timing

on this episode yeah I think that there was a logic to that right you change coaches in the

NHL you usually see a little bit of a short-term bump,

whether that would be adrenaline, whether it's a pressure release, whether it's guys trying to

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