The year is 1971 and we are the podcast makers. We are the dreamers of dreams.

The movie willy-wanka in the chocolate factory.

Hello everyone and welcome to unspoold.

I am Paul Sheer and I am joined as always by my amazing co-host, The Famed.

The amazing, the brilliant writer for the New York Times, Amy Nicholson. Film critic is

Strutner. I know you are, but what am I? Mr. Magical Man. Well, we have been talking about gene

wilder films. We've been doing this gene wilder trifecta that I have just so loved. I have too.

And I think that it really brought me back to how much I miss gene wilder because gene wilder was

such a big part in my life. And it started with this film, Willy Wonka in the Chocolate Factory.

This is one of those films when I was a kid that was on rotation all the time. And looking into

this film a little bit deeper, there's so much to unpack here. This is a really wonderful movie that I

think really pulls in a lot of what we love about gene wilder into perhaps the perfect package.

I think this is a movie that I find delightful, delicious, and a story about capitalism, socialism,

commercialism, heaven, hell, Wonka, my god, what a Titanic figure, what a terrifying figure.

Absolutely. And we're going to talk about the idea, do we need more movies like this,

Weird Dark Movies? Kids need to be frightened. And the kids on this movie were frightened by

gene wilder. So as we wrap up our gene wilder trilogy, I think we're going to get into a lot of

the things. Do we need to remake everything? Is gene wilder the only person that could play this?

And do we need to scare the shit out of kids and teach them to obey or die? Any without any

further ado, let me take out my flute. And let's enspool it.

The year is 1971 and Quaker Oats has agreed to something wildly out of character for a hundred

year old oatmeal company. They are funding a movie, the entire thing, and they don't know anything

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