You can't. The mindfulness isn't, you know, sitting in the room, cross-legged. It can be every aspect of your day.

So you, the water

so you, the waterman,

of the UTT.

So you, the Waterman Project, you are helping to research sharks by tagging them and tracking them.

What are you looking for? I mean, what's the whole intent behind that?

Um, well, it started off just when I, my competitive career took off, I'd done an

interview and was asked about background.

I said it's done some.

I grew up spearfishing and exploring.

And I got invited to help scientists tag

a difficult to approach species of shark.

And it just kind of snowballed because,

you know, one of the researchers that I met in 2009,

he only had two tags.

So there's an enormous lack of funding and then, you know, scientists, I mean I talked to scientists,

you know, they fill out reams, they do reams of paperwork sit in wait to get a $5,000 grant

you know for research that's going to require 50 to a you know to 100,000 and so I just you know it's kind of what my parents

instilled in my brother and I being of service and I was excited that I could

use my skills to you to help place the tags.

Then we redesigned the tagging system to make it more user-friendly and more friendly to the shark.

And then it was you know raising trying to raise funds

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