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The Hello everyone and welcome.

The True Crime All the Time podcast.

I'm Mike Ferguson and with me as always is my partner in True Crime.

Mike Gibson, give give me how are you

hey I'm doing good about you doing great that's awesome except you and I are both battling bad backs

we are like a couple of old men that we are actually I mean I know you had trouble getting your

walker with the tennis balls down the stairs to the studio, but we are battling, you know, some less than perfect backs right now.

That is some image that you just put in a lot of people's heads right now.

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